Frustrating Layout of Content Asset Folders

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Hi I have a very general question/remark on Episervers use of assetfolders.

As you all know the folder structure is used for Blocks as well as Media. I simply can't wrap my head around why you would want this. 

We use currently an old installation of Episerver (6R2) that has several hundreds of media folders (with thousands of files), divided on departments and having specific access rights per department. Because of the current implementation of Media and Blocks combined in a view i get a very confusing layout which frustrates the hell out of me.

Why isn't it possible to hide specific folders if you don't have the rights for it, or even worse....because it's a media folder and not a block folder? Or vice versa?

Now i'm trying to create specific folders just for blocks but the only solution I see is giving them a clear name. However this doesn't solve the fact that i see hundreds of folders in my Block window that are totally unrelated to blocks.

Please can someone tell me the 'usability' reason behind it (not the technical reason), is there a fix for it? Or is this in any way tackled in a near future release?

Thanks in advance,

Ron

#139450
Oct 02, 2015 12:47
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I'll let some one official answer this... but I think it's because editors usually mimics the page structure for files, and would do the same for blocks now in EPiServer 7+.

But why don't you just create two top-level folders; Blocks and Files. This is done in 5 seconds.

#139473
Edited, Oct 02, 2015 21:28
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I agree with you. I have been confused by shared folders since the beginning, and a lot of our customers are confused as well. I don't know how many times I've been trying to upload files to the "Blocks" panel. I think it should be a setting that defaults to "false". At the very least, the UI of the folder views should be different in some way, maybe with different color themes or something.

However, you can do as Johan says and create two top-level folders. But I'm guessing it's a lot more work than 5 seconds for you since you have to move a lot of folders and files. :)

#139493
Oct 05, 2015 8:05
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Good discussion, thanks for the feedback!

The assets pane is one of the areas which we want to redesign. It was actually designed the current way based on feedback from a couple of customers and partners, however we feel that we can improve it.

One of the design suggestions we have right now is to have one pane, but with facets. So you would still have one structure, but you would only see the items belonging to a selected category  (Blocks/Media). So you will remain at the same place in the folder structure, but will see either Blocks or Media files. A option to "hide empty folders" would work nice with this. So that if you select "Blocks", all folders not containing any Blocks will be hidden. The search bar would be used as a filter instead, so that the items listed in the pane are Blocks matching the query, ex "list".

This is hypothetical. So please feel free to share your thoughts, both on this suggestion, or to add how you would like to see us improve the assets pane.  

#139503
Oct 05, 2015 14:39
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Hiding folders is probably not a good solution. How do you upload files to a folder that doesn't already have files?

I rather have two seperate trees for folders. But more important, be able to translate files, not sure how to handle the blob though, maybe we should be able to mark it as culture specific as well.

#139505
Edited, Oct 05, 2015 14:44
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The option to hide empty folders would be a toggle, so you'd just toggle it of to show all folders again. 

Im taking all suggestions though! When we start working on a redesigned assets pane I will make sure that separate structures is one of the approaches we evaluate. 

#139509
Oct 05, 2015 15:02
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This is an old thread, I know, but I thought I should post my question here since it's the same subject.

I'm using Episerver 11. The assets pane has probably been redesigned since this thread was started, but I still find it confusing. Folders for media and blocks are devided into their own tabs, that's great. However, all the folders are visible in both tabs. For example if I create a folder under "Media" it will also be visible under "Blocks". I can't add blocks to this folder, only upload media files, so it's just confusing that it's present when I'm working with blocks.

Is there an option in Episerver 11 (or newer) to hide "Media" folders when the user is in the "Blocks" tab and vice versa?

#197663
Edited, Oct 09, 2018 17:47
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+1 

I think this is a major UX failure

#197699
Oct 10, 2018 18:29
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#197723
Oct 11, 2018 13:30
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Agree with this. Is there any specific use case for persisting directores created under "Blocks", within the "Media" store also? Or is this a design flaw?

Media and Blocks should be stored in different directories - it can be confusing for example when you're looking for a specific media item by browsing through the Assets pane, you can see that the directory exists where you expect the media item to sit, but are wondering why you can't see it. Only to realise you have the Blocks tab in focus instead of the Media tab..

#197743
Oct 11, 2018 22:42
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I very much agree with this to! It is difficult to explain to the customer why this is arranged in such a strange way for the user!

#197761
Oct 12, 2018 8:12
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I agree with this and I always need to point out that there is the same structure when holding education classes and in almost every case the studenst goes "why??".

So I would like to have different roots as well!

#197766
Oct 12, 2018 9:03
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There's also the risk of deleting a block folder you think is empty, but may contain (unlinked) documents. And vice versa of course.

#197770
Oct 12, 2018 9:21
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+1, the blocks and media needs to be clearly separated and not "duplicate" the folders for both views.

#197793
Oct 13, 2018 19:58
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